1 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:11,080 I want to be friends. You will not let me get in. 2 00:01:11,110 --> 00:01:14,090 You have to, it's way beyond that now. 3 00:01:14,860 --> 00:01:18,130 What you've done to Soon-Yi. What you've done to Dylan. 4 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:21,510 What you've done to Dylan, Dylan's a baby. 5 00:01:21,540 --> 00:01:23,260 How could you do that to her? 6 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,810 I don't know anything of the kind. I know what Dylan tells me. 7 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,270 You've told me nothing but lies. Dylan tells the truth and consistently. 8 00:01:33,550 --> 00:01:36,770 - But you know that I didn't... - I don't know that, Woody. 9 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,700 I've always been worried about you and Dylan. 10 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,870 And I didn't know the doctor had to report this to the authorities. 11 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,080 I didn't know that. I went to be sure she was all right. 12 00:01:53,730 --> 00:01:56,050 And she's not all right, Woody. 13 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,170 She walks around the house holding her vagina. 14 00:02:00,950 --> 00:02:02,550 She sleeps with me. 15 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,640 She's scared of you. 16 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:08,180 And you hurt her. 17 00:02:10,290 --> 00:02:14,190 Now I feel pretty guilty myself that I wasn't there to protect her. 18 00:02:16,590 --> 00:02:18,940 She said, "Mommy, you didn't help me." 19 00:02:21,010 --> 00:02:23,570 She said, "Daddy shouldn't have done that. 20 00:02:23,970 --> 00:02:26,200 He shouldn't have hurt me like that. 21 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,830 If you heard her you would weep inside, 22 00:02:33,610 --> 00:02:36,040 and you would just want to be dead. 23 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,510 Because I don't know how you can live with what you did. 24 00:02:50,620 --> 00:02:53,980 This is a story of two of the biggest stars in the world. 25 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,100 The father is Woody Allen, writer, director, actor. 26 00:02:57,130 --> 00:02:59,980 The mother is Mia Farrow, his frequent co-star, 27 00:03:00,010 --> 00:03:02,610 and the mother of his three children, two of them adopted. 28 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:07,580 Woody and Mia have been together for 12 years 29 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:10,330 but never married and kept separate residences. 30 00:03:16,780 --> 00:03:18,460 She reportedly has a video 31 00:03:18,570 --> 00:03:22,130 of their adopted daughter Dylan explaining how Allen molested her. 32 00:03:24,950 --> 00:03:27,760 Allen denies child abuse, but freely admits 33 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:32,060 he's in love with another of Farrow's daughters, 21-year-old Soon-Yi. 34 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,730 Allen said the newest allegations 35 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,020 are the bizarre concoctions of a woman scorned. 36 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:43,860 Miss Farrow's only concern 37 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:47,070 have been exclusively the protection of her children. 38 00:03:56,110 --> 00:04:02,050 ALLEN V. FARROW Episode 3 39 00:04:07,370 --> 00:04:10,550 The private lives of Woody Allen and the Farrow family 40 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:13,810 would become very public in August of 1992. 41 00:04:15,290 --> 00:04:18,430 A series of investigations and lawsuits followed, 42 00:04:18,460 --> 00:04:22,270 which generated tens of thousands of court and police documents, 43 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:25,820 most of which were never made public or obtained by the press. 44 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,820 One cache of more than 60 boxes of documentation 45 00:04:31,850 --> 00:04:34,700 was hidden away in an attorney storage room, 46 00:04:34,770 --> 00:04:36,410 untouched since the '90s. 47 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:40,960 Over the course of our three-year investigation 48 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:43,420 we gained access to those boxes, 49 00:04:43,570 --> 00:04:49,010 along with police files of the case, additional evidence, affidavits, 50 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:53,390 sworn testimony, and private audio and video recordings. 51 00:05:04,340 --> 00:05:06,320 After the incident in the attic, 52 00:05:08,180 --> 00:05:10,490 the next day I took Dylan to the doctor. 53 00:05:12,470 --> 00:05:16,620 She didn't really know the pediatrician up here in Connecticut that well 54 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:20,040 and she sure didn't want to talk about it. 55 00:05:21,730 --> 00:05:23,960 He didn't want to pressure her, and he said: 56 00:05:24,030 --> 00:05:26,960 "No problem. Why don't you come back tomorrow?" 57 00:05:29,410 --> 00:05:30,710 When we got in the car and I said: 58 00:05:30,740 --> 00:05:34,510 "Did you want to tell him what you told me? Do you feel...?" 59 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,930 And she said, "I don't like to talk about my privates." 60 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,730 And I'm, like, "I get that. 61 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,570 But it would be helpful if you could tell him, 62 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:50,700 because then we would have somebody who could make sure you are okay." 63 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,870 So then the next day we went back 64 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:59,200 and she did tell the doctor what happened. 65 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:03,750 And then we went home. 66 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:12,760 And we were all outside and I got a call from the doctor. 67 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,720 And he said, "I just wanted to tell you that I've told the police." 68 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:21,890 I remember when I took the phone call I made the kids get out of the water. 69 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,520 So they were making sand castles and covering their feet with sand. 70 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,650 And I saw a little robin was hopping on the grass. 71 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,120 And I'm holding the phone thinking it all looked so normal, 72 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:39,700 but nothing will ever be normal ever again. 73 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:53,550 Dylan's pediatrician had submitted a report of suspected sexual abuse, 74 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:57,050 and a series of legal actions were initiated in two states. 75 00:06:58,830 --> 00:07:01,560 In New York, the Farrows' legal residence, 76 00:07:01,670 --> 00:07:05,230 the City Child Welfare Administration opened an investigation. 77 00:07:06,630 --> 00:07:09,940 While in Connecticut, where the crime had occurred, 78 00:07:09,970 --> 00:07:12,940 the state police also opened a criminal investigation, 79 00:07:13,140 --> 00:07:16,320 which was overseen by state prosecutor, Frank Maco. 80 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:21,700 I received a call from my office with a complaint, 81 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,250 alleged sexual abuse on one Woody Allen. 82 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,130 I met with the members of the Connecticut State Police. 83 00:07:29,860 --> 00:07:32,840 I said, I want to make sure that we're not talking 84 00:07:32,950 --> 00:07:36,590 about some type of a Hollywood relationship that had gone bad. 85 00:07:37,870 --> 00:07:42,560 Next thing you know, crime squad trucks rolling down our driveway. 86 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:46,400 They went to do whatever they do in the attic, 87 00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:49,270 collecting hair and stuff like that. 88 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,190 What I remember... 89 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:57,780 is that after the attic 90 00:07:59,390 --> 00:08:02,990 things really started changing very rapidly. 91 00:08:04,690 --> 00:08:05,870 I said this thing, 92 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:11,960 and it started this nightmare of lawyers and the phone ringing, 93 00:08:12,110 --> 00:08:13,840 and everything changed. 94 00:08:17,370 --> 00:08:19,090 Woody's not about to change his ways. 95 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,470 He's where he is every Monday night, Michael's Pub here in Manhattan. 96 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:24,390 Steve Powers is there right now. Steve? 97 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:29,230 It was as if Woody Allen was trying to play it cool by playing his clarinet, 98 00:08:29,380 --> 00:08:31,980 as he does every Monday night over here at Michael's Pub. 99 00:08:32,010 --> 00:08:33,690 He went up on the bandstand 100 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,070 and joined the band in some playing with a full house. 101 00:08:37,890 --> 00:08:41,490 But earlier there was an indication everything wasn't just fine, 102 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:45,410 when Woody left his apartment at 74th Street and 5th venue. 103 00:08:45,850 --> 00:08:47,120 He had no comment. 104 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,580 Woody, could you give us a comment, Woody? 105 00:08:50,780 --> 00:08:53,340 Anything about the Bridgewater charges, Woody? 106 00:08:54,990 --> 00:08:57,210 My office and the Connecticut State Police, 107 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,180 we wanted to do our investigation 108 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,810 quietly and as effectively as possible, professionally as possible. 109 00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:10,850 Next thing I know at the Plaza Hotel 110 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:15,530 Mr. Allen calls a news conference and announces he's subject 111 00:09:15,630 --> 00:09:19,910 of a Connecticut State Police investigation into abuse. 112 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:24,830 Thank you for coming. 113 00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:30,420 Over the years you know that I've been reluctant to speak with the press 114 00:09:30,980 --> 00:09:34,500 and have assiduously avoided publicity. 115 00:09:35,530 --> 00:09:39,970 But because of all the rumors, and innuendos, 116 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,720 and cruel untruths circulating over the past week 117 00:09:45,290 --> 00:09:47,310 I feel that I have to make a statement. 118 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,850 This is an unconscionable and gruesomely damaging manipulation 119 00:09:53,170 --> 00:09:58,230 of innocent children for vindictive and self-serving purposes. 120 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,230 In the end the one thing I have been guilty of 121 00:10:02,260 --> 00:10:05,530 is falling in love with Ms. Farrow's adult daughter... 122 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:08,200 Woody gave a press conference 123 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,120 where he talked about being wildly in love with Soon-Yi, 124 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,630 and our jaws all dropped. 125 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,000 He said to Mia, "I don't love Soon-Yi", I heard him say this: 126 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,010 "This was just a silly little fling. I'm not in love with her." 127 00:10:22,780 --> 00:10:26,390 There's a calculated reason why love enters the picture. 128 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:31,350 He's trying to distract. This is a woman scorned. 129 00:10:31,380 --> 00:10:34,650 This is an unhinged woman. That's Woody's narrative. 130 00:10:35,510 --> 00:10:39,280 He turned it all back, turned it upside down and around, 131 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,650 and focused on his relationship with Soon-Yi. 132 00:10:43,970 --> 00:10:46,030 And the media ran with that story. 133 00:10:48,350 --> 00:10:49,870 One day after Woody Allen 134 00:10:49,940 --> 00:10:53,290 acknowledge a love affair with de 21 year-old adopted daughter 135 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,700 of his one time companion and leading lady Mia Farrow, 136 00:10:55,730 --> 00:10:58,590 the usually very private filmmaker went public. 137 00:10:59,530 --> 00:11:02,000 Allen says he feels no great moral dilemma 138 00:11:02,030 --> 00:11:04,880 over his admitted relationship with Soon-Yi Previn Farrow. 139 00:11:05,410 --> 00:11:06,840 In a written statement Allen says, 140 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:10,770 "Regarding my love for Soon-Yi, it's real and happily all true. 141 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,310 He added that Mia Farrow was so irate 142 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:17,310 when Allen fell in love with Farrow's adopted college-age daughter, Soon-Yi, 143 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:20,110 that Farrow concocted the abuse charges. 144 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,200 I would love to see Dylan and Satchel, and you know that. 145 00:11:25,260 --> 00:11:27,490 So you're not willing to try to go back 146 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,160 and try to undo some of this, and see if we can't... 147 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:37,130 - What could be undone? - Take it out of the public arena. 148 00:11:37,650 --> 00:11:39,500 - Yes. - Let's get it private. 149 00:11:39,650 --> 00:11:42,670 I'd love to take it out of the public arena. 150 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:46,050 But when you say "take it out of the public arena..." 151 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,840 But let's stop insulting each other through other people. 152 00:11:49,870 --> 00:11:51,680 I mean, you know, in fact we... 153 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:53,390 It's not out of the public arena 154 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:56,140 when you're doing an interview with Newsweek. 155 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:58,520 I was told you were doing an interview with Newsweek. 156 00:11:58,550 --> 00:12:01,270 I'm not doing an interview with Newsweek, no. 157 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:04,320 In Time and Newsweek Allen struck the latest blow 158 00:12:04,430 --> 00:12:07,660 in this war waged with sound bites and spicy quotes. 159 00:12:08,770 --> 00:12:11,580 Over the past week Allen's trial-by-tabloid 160 00:12:11,730 --> 00:12:13,830 has captivated the national psyche. 161 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:16,540 I was a general assignment reporter back in the '90s 162 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:21,460 when we heard that Mia Farrow's adopted daughter 163 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,130 might be having an affair with Woody Allen. 164 00:12:25,070 --> 00:12:28,180 And the way he spun it was just perfect. 165 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,510 Don't forget, Woody Allen at that time 166 00:12:31,540 --> 00:12:35,520 had some really high-powered people in his court. 167 00:12:36,170 --> 00:12:39,520 Elkan Abramowitz, his attorney, big, big attorney, 168 00:12:40,590 --> 00:12:45,030 and he had a very powerful PR machine behind him. 169 00:12:45,930 --> 00:12:49,160 They were doing a great job painting Mia Farrow 170 00:12:49,260 --> 00:12:51,780 as a scorned woman who would say anything. 171 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:54,490 But we had to follow the leads, 172 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:58,040 and sometimes it took us to a place that Woody Allen was not happy. 173 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,130 Here at the Episcopal School on Manhattan's East Side 174 00:13:01,190 --> 00:13:05,120 sources tell us that Woody Allen was so obsessed with Dylan, 175 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:08,170 who was then three years-old, that parents and teachers 176 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,170 began talking about how Allen would sit in the doorway 177 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,050 positioned to watch little Dylan in the classroom. 178 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,100 We were one of a few journalists who gave the other side. 179 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:21,440 Woody immediately got onto the cover of Time, 180 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:24,140 the cover of Newsweek, the cover of People, 181 00:13:24,170 --> 00:13:26,110 and Mia wasn't really speaking. 182 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:31,950 I thought to myself, there has to be another side to the story. 183 00:13:33,390 --> 00:13:37,830 She was not giving interviews so I had to find people close to her. 184 00:13:38,690 --> 00:13:41,500 I spoke to Andre Previn, her previous husband. 185 00:13:42,110 --> 00:13:45,630 I spoke to the tutors. I spoke to the babysitters. 186 00:13:48,070 --> 00:13:50,300 One of the things that was interesting to me 187 00:13:50,410 --> 00:13:55,050 was that Mia didn't want these allegations to be true 188 00:13:55,580 --> 00:13:59,230 because this was completely unraveling her entire life. 189 00:14:00,250 --> 00:14:03,230 I was told by several different people that she said, 190 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:05,690 "You know, Dylan, we all make up stories. 191 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,770 If this didn't happen you really need to tell me it didn't happen, 192 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,440 or maybe you think it happened and..." 193 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:12,490 And she says, "No, it happened. 194 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:15,070 And if he says it didn't happen he's lying." 195 00:14:15,270 --> 00:14:17,660 So this little girl would never back down from the story. 196 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:24,210 I also found out that Woody refused to submit 197 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,750 to the state police's lie detector test. 198 00:14:28,530 --> 00:14:31,130 The Connecticut State Police indicated that Woody Allen 199 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,970 had taken a polygraph by a private polygrapher. 200 00:14:35,580 --> 00:14:40,180 I said, "I'm not interested. I want a state police polygrapher to take it," 201 00:14:40,670 --> 00:14:41,930 and he refused. 202 00:14:42,670 --> 00:14:44,980 So I did not get what I had requested, 203 00:14:45,130 --> 00:14:48,320 which was a polygraph by the Connecticut State Police. 204 00:14:50,130 --> 00:14:54,660 If I have a shred of belief left in you, then help me now. 205 00:14:55,310 --> 00:14:57,830 Tell me where you were for those 20 minutes. 206 00:14:58,390 --> 00:15:02,500 - That will all be... - But why can't you just tell me now? 207 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,950 It will all be... all the details when the time comes. 208 00:15:06,980 --> 00:15:09,800 No, now. Why can't you just tell me, help me now? 209 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,880 ... when the time comes, and the truth will come out. 210 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,430 Woody, tell me where you were! People scoured the house. 211 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:22,890 Every single room was searched. You could help me a lot. 212 00:15:24,130 --> 00:15:26,270 ... all about that eventually... 213 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,070 - Why don't you just tell me? - ... all about it. 214 00:15:35,390 --> 00:15:38,660 Be logical about this. I'm 57. 215 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,160 Isn't it illogical that I'm going to pick this moment in my life 216 00:15:44,190 --> 00:15:45,950 to become a child molester? 217 00:15:45,980 --> 00:15:47,420 It's just incredible. 218 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,960 if I wanted to be a child molester I had many opportunities in the past. 219 00:15:51,490 --> 00:15:55,680 Why would Allen's 7-year-old daughter tell a Connecticut doctor otherwise? 220 00:15:56,580 --> 00:16:01,970 Either she has been coached methodically to... 221 00:16:02,250 --> 00:16:04,480 tell this story, because... 222 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:07,310 - By Mia? - By Mia, yeah. 223 00:16:10,010 --> 00:16:12,900 Overnight almost there he is on everything, 224 00:16:12,970 --> 00:16:15,360 on the cover of every magazine, on every kind of show, 225 00:16:16,050 --> 00:16:19,450 saying that I had coached Dylan and all these things. 226 00:16:19,890 --> 00:16:22,160 She's been using her friends on both coasts 227 00:16:22,270 --> 00:16:25,320 to say terrible things about me and to lie about... 228 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:31,750 I didn't feel that it was seemly to get into... 229 00:16:32,780 --> 00:16:34,460 a public fight with him. 230 00:16:35,740 --> 00:16:38,050 In a statement Farrow told NBC News 231 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,010 she wouldn't be interviewed about Woody Allen for this story 232 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,100 and asked that her friends not talk to us about Allen either. 233 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,440 I just had to keep my focus on the kids 234 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:50,730 and try to keep them safe, 235 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,360 and try to keep whatever semblance of normal that we could 236 00:16:54,590 --> 00:16:56,280 under the circumstances. 237 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:02,240 There were helicopters flying low to take pictures, 238 00:17:02,350 --> 00:17:04,540 and the kids couldn't go anywhere. 239 00:17:05,690 --> 00:17:07,120 And it was terrifying. 240 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:13,960 If we left the house they would follow us wherever we were going. 241 00:17:15,150 --> 00:17:18,510 And it was scary. 242 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,300 At the Farrow home in Connecticut, and elsewhere, 243 00:17:22,370 --> 00:17:25,310 family members were rallying to Mama Mia's side. 244 00:17:25,460 --> 00:17:29,220 She's my mother and she's the best mother there is. 245 00:17:29,250 --> 00:17:33,520 Any statement saying that she is unfit to be a mother is completely ridiculous. 246 00:17:33,710 --> 00:17:37,440 She is a marvelous mother, a fine woman, 247 00:17:37,470 --> 00:17:40,530 and she's just got a moral foundation that's just unbreakable 248 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,450 and we're all rocks and we're all staying together 249 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,490 we're gonna fight this thing till we win. 250 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,540 We didn't need help turning against him. He did it to himself. 251 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,040 And his accusation that my mother is an unfit mother is absurd. 252 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:53,880 Anybody who knows my mother knows that. 253 00:17:55,150 --> 00:17:57,760 Woody appeared to have what were unlimited resources 254 00:17:57,820 --> 00:17:59,420 and hired private investigators. 255 00:17:59,570 --> 00:18:02,880 And people were following us around, and going through garbage, 256 00:18:02,910 --> 00:18:06,100 and looking for anything that there's a weakness here 257 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:09,020 that I can exploit to say, "Hold on a minute, 258 00:18:09,710 --> 00:18:13,600 she's not the great parent she's asserting herself to be. Look at this." 259 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,190 I definitely felt like I was followed a few times, 260 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,320 when I was coming from Mia's apartment back to my apartment, 261 00:18:22,430 --> 00:18:24,200 or if I was taking the children out. 262 00:18:25,770 --> 00:18:28,910 One night I was coming home from some friends, 263 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,040 and I was being followed. 264 00:18:31,650 --> 00:18:33,290 So I didn't even go home. 265 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,670 I took some twists and turns and still this person was following me. 266 00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:44,680 I went all the way into the neighboring town and it became really scary. 267 00:18:46,410 --> 00:18:49,970 Woody Allen's team hired multiple private investigators 268 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,600 to uncover compromising information about Mia's family, 269 00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:56,360 as well as the Connecticut State detectives 270 00:18:56,420 --> 00:18:59,280 who had been assigned to the case. 271 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,030 I met with the members of the Connecticut State Police, 272 00:19:05,140 --> 00:19:08,240 instructed them to continue their investigation. 273 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,750 I said, "I want this child evaluated." 274 00:19:13,310 --> 00:19:15,330 I wanted some type of opinion 275 00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:19,960 as to whether or not my bringing her into the criminal justice system, 276 00:19:20,030 --> 00:19:23,380 putting her on the stand, in any way would traumatize her. 277 00:19:24,450 --> 00:19:27,800 And want to know are there any impediments to the child's ability 278 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:30,560 to take the stand and testify in court. 279 00:19:31,250 --> 00:19:36,440 So I suggested the Yale Child Sexual Abuse Clinic to do the examination. 280 00:19:38,170 --> 00:19:41,520 They were going to assist me insofar as determining 281 00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:44,070 whether or not there were any impediments 282 00:19:44,180 --> 00:19:48,700 as to the child's ability to perceive, recall, and relate. 283 00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:54,200 The Yale New Haven team was led by Dr. John Leventhal, 284 00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:56,330 who at that time was the director 285 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,840 of the Yale New Haven Hospital Child Sexual Abuse Clinic. 286 00:20:01,150 --> 00:20:03,880 The team also included two social workers, 287 00:20:04,030 --> 00:20:06,300 Julia Hamilton and Jennifer Sawyer. 288 00:20:07,790 --> 00:20:12,100 Records show that Sawyer and Hamilton interviewed Dylan nine times 289 00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:14,020 over a three-month period. 290 00:20:16,670 --> 00:20:19,350 I would meet with some adults 291 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,860 who would show me an anatomically-correct doll 292 00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:25,320 and ask me where daddy touched me. 293 00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:33,910 And I would repeat the story over, and over, and over again. 294 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,460 It was grueling and it was intense, and I hated it. 295 00:20:44,490 --> 00:20:47,170 Their examination went on for seven months. 296 00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:53,050 And then I received a call that the Yale Child Sexual Abuse Clinic 297 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,600 made a decision, and I am given the bottom-line conclusion 298 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,360 that the child is unreliable, untrustworthy, 299 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:07,360 and/or that Mia Farrow was a fabricator of this incident. 300 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,080 The report stated there were "inconsistencies" in Dylan's statements, 301 00:21:13,930 --> 00:21:18,500 and that she had "difficulty distinguishing fantasy from reality." 302 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:23,630 The report also stated that Dylan's accusations were 303 00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:28,760 "likely reinforced and encouraged by her mother who was enraged with Mr. Allen." 304 00:21:32,410 --> 00:21:36,350 Without notifying Frank Maco, who had commissioned the report, 305 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:39,390 Yale New Haven met with Mia Farrow and Woody Allen 306 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,770 and informed them of the results of the report. 307 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,440 Next thing I know the Yale New Haven team 308 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,820 presented the findings to Allen, the suspect of the investigation, 309 00:21:53,890 --> 00:21:58,370 and allowed him to announce the results publicly on the steps of the hospital. 310 00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:06,130 They've come to a decision that I can say is an accurate one. 311 00:22:06,990 --> 00:22:11,010 Certainly I never, ever abused my daughter. 312 00:22:11,410 --> 00:22:14,260 There was no sexual abuse that ever took place, 313 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:18,310 and that the... it was either... 314 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,020 an imagined thing or a concocted thing. 315 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,860 Why do you call the accused and have a press conference 316 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:33,860 on the steps of the hospital to "clear him" 317 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,370 when you don't give it to the state attorney to do that? 318 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,120 He was the one who commissioned it. It wasn't their purview to do that. 319 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,200 Today's report, if it is as Allen describes it, 320 00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:49,880 seems to remove any possibility he'd face criminal charges. 321 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,340 The report also says that the child may have made this story up. 322 00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:57,760 But the experts also allow for the possibility in their report 323 00:22:57,790 --> 00:23:00,390 that Farrow may have coached the child to tell this story. 324 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,520 In the report the experts recommend that Farrow receive therapy now 325 00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:06,190 for what it characterized 326 00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:10,480 as her "extremely disturbed" relationship with 7-year-old Dylan. 327 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,360 I had to come forward and say, "Wait a minute. 328 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,200 I find nothing indicating that Mia Farrow 329 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:23,830 is in any way fabricating, controlling, or manipulating this child. 330 00:23:23,940 --> 00:23:25,580 There's nothing to show us that. 331 00:23:27,820 --> 00:23:32,840 I just want to say that I will always stand by my children. 332 00:23:35,030 --> 00:23:37,800 Did you make it up? Did you make up that story? 333 00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:45,440 I was contacted by Ms. Farrow's attorney 334 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,400 shortly after the Yale report came out. 335 00:23:49,670 --> 00:23:52,190 Ms. Farrow's lawyer was concerned about the report, 336 00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:55,150 and she asked me if I could read it and tell her what I thought. 337 00:23:56,890 --> 00:23:58,700 I read the report and I was horrified. 338 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:02,370 And I testified in court about the report. 339 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:07,620 They interviewed this child nine times. 340 00:24:08,610 --> 00:24:13,460 Even in the early '90s nobody interviewed a child of any age 341 00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:17,470 amidst an allegation of sexual abuse nine times. 342 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,430 You don't interview a child about the same allegation 343 00:24:22,660 --> 00:24:25,180 over and over and over again. 344 00:24:25,670 --> 00:24:32,940 You interview the child the least amount of times as possible, 345 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,570 so as not to re-traumatize the child. 346 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:41,320 The more I was asked the same question over and over, 347 00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:48,500 the more I started to wonder what do they want from me, 348 00:24:50,110 --> 00:24:54,920 and feeling like the more I said the same thing, that... 349 00:24:56,530 --> 00:25:00,680 it was the wrong answer, that I was being treated like I was... 350 00:25:01,790 --> 00:25:02,930 lying. 351 00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:08,390 If I'd change a word here they say I'm being inconsistent. 352 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:16,110 If I use exactly the same words that I used every other time I was coached. 353 00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:24,410 There were absolute consistencies in which this child said 354 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,370 the same thing to the same interviewers over the 9 times she was interviewed. 355 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,460 She's very consistent about who touched her, 356 00:25:34,190 --> 00:25:36,800 where in the house, what part of her body, 357 00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:39,420 what he touched her with. 358 00:25:39,910 --> 00:25:44,140 So she's very consistent with the core elements of her disclosure. 359 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,270 She hasn't really moved away from that in this report, 360 00:25:47,330 --> 00:25:48,600 in all of these interviews. 361 00:25:51,170 --> 00:25:55,140 Every little idiosyncrasy that I could've had as a seven-year-old girl 362 00:25:55,170 --> 00:25:57,030 was used against me. 363 00:25:57,180 --> 00:26:02,070 The fact that I used childish descriptions... 364 00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:09,580 I described a couple of mannequin heads as "dead heads." 365 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,830 The "dead heads" were later identified 366 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,250 as Mia Farrow's mannequins for her wigs, 367 00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:19,670 probably in her profession. 368 00:26:20,660 --> 00:26:24,180 I did not find that to be an unreasonable description 369 00:26:24,330 --> 00:26:27,810 by a seven-year-old who's trying to identify what was in mom's attic. 370 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,520 Part of their conclusion of why Dylan fantasized 371 00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,980 was because she referred to the "magic hour." 372 00:26:38,550 --> 00:26:41,650 Anybody who's grown up around filmmakers 373 00:26:41,850 --> 00:26:45,780 knows that certain hours of the day do have the magic light. 374 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,330 I was the kid of two people in the film industry. 375 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,830 And I was on set a lot. 376 00:26:55,570 --> 00:27:00,800 So how I was I supposed to know that that constitutes magical thinking? 377 00:27:03,070 --> 00:27:05,760 That's a pretty big thing to say a 7-year-old child 378 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,390 is delusional, isn't thinking right, 379 00:27:08,830 --> 00:27:11,180 doesn't know the difference between fantasy and reality. 380 00:27:13,420 --> 00:27:17,350 This report failed to reflect anything even close 381 00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:22,030 to the child having a psychotic disorder, not even close. 382 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,860 Jennifer Sawyer and Dr. Julia Hamilton, 383 00:27:27,890 --> 00:27:30,410 the two social workers on Leventhal's team, 384 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,790 interviewed Dylan. 385 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:34,370 But according to Dr. Leventhal's deposition, 386 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,500 Yale New Haven's practice was to destroy all notes 387 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,000 after the completion of an evaluation. 388 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,670 So ultimately no contemporaneous record exists 389 00:27:43,780 --> 00:27:47,140 of what they thought or observed when they first interviewed Dylan. 390 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,100 All of the notes were destroyed. 391 00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:55,390 - Are notes typically destroyed? - No. Notes are never destroyed. 392 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,150 Notes are never destroyed during a forensic evaluation, 393 00:28:00,260 --> 00:28:03,860 never, ever, ever destroyed. 394 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,610 Notes are evidence, and we would turn over any drawings, 395 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,370 any notes we took in an interview, 396 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,280 anything that was written down in an interview 397 00:28:13,310 --> 00:28:15,410 would be handed over to law enforcement. 398 00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:19,040 If I elected to go to trial on this case 399 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:21,460 my first question to each of those evaluators, 400 00:28:21,490 --> 00:28:26,420 "Let me see your contemporaneous notes in your interview of this child." 401 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,430 Destroyed, all of them. 402 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:35,180 Bottom line, this was basically a runaway evaluation. 403 00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:40,770 Yale New Haven did not have the authority to reach their conclusion. 404 00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:44,230 They're talking about whether a crime occurred. 405 00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:48,990 And the people who decide whether a child is a victim of a crime 406 00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:50,620 is a judge or a jury. 407 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,660 I make the decision, not Yale. 408 00:28:53,770 --> 00:28:57,410 I haven't relinquished my constitutional responsibility 409 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,740 to decide whether or not we're going to prosecute. 410 00:28:59,770 --> 00:29:05,170 It is up to a trained prosecutor to determine whether or not 411 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:10,300 that child has been sexually abused, period. 412 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,720 No one should hold up that report and say Woody Allen was exonerated. 413 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:24,610 While the investigation continued in Connecticut, 414 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,360 the investigation in New York by the Child Welfare Administration 415 00:29:28,390 --> 00:29:29,740 was also underway. 416 00:29:30,260 --> 00:29:33,570 The supervisor assigned to the case was Sheryl Harden. 417 00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:38,000 In my sex abuse unit I was a senior supervisor, 418 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:42,380 and we investigated child abuse throughout the City of New York. 419 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:46,710 So after I read the allegations I said I'll assign this to Paul. 420 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,590 Paul Williams was one of the top investigators that I had. 421 00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:55,600 He was very thorough; he was objective. 422 00:29:56,540 --> 00:30:00,390 Paul Williams had roughly handled about 800 cases at the time, 423 00:30:00,750 --> 00:30:03,560 and just the year before in 1991 424 00:30:04,510 --> 00:30:08,690 the City of New York awarded him "Caseworker of the Year". 425 00:30:09,050 --> 00:30:10,480 It was the first time 426 00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:14,660 that they had ever awarded such an award to a caseworker. 427 00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:19,290 Paul interviewed Dylan and found her to be quite credible. 428 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,210 At her age she should not know anything about inserting a finger into the vagina. 429 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:29,010 She should not know anything about inserting a finger into the anus. 430 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,380 Those are not things that should be that easy for her to discuss 431 00:30:34,790 --> 00:30:37,140 unless there's something occurring. 432 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,770 Among the records we obtained 433 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,900 were a complete set of Paul Williams' contemporaneous investigation notes. 434 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,070 Within the first two weeks of being assigned the case 435 00:30:50,970 --> 00:30:53,570 Williams reported that there was sufficient information 436 00:30:54,010 --> 00:30:58,160 to open a criminal investigation of Woody Allen in the State of New York. 437 00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:02,460 He was later told by superiors that, 438 00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:07,210 "In high-profile cases it is customary for the 'big wigs' to take over 439 00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:09,250 and 'we'...do nothing." 440 00:31:11,530 --> 00:31:15,550 This was no ordinary case. Filings were misfiled. 441 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,760 Misinformation was put into the computer. 442 00:31:19,330 --> 00:31:24,890 There was clearly a strong political climate to shut this thing down. 443 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,320 But Paul Williams, his agenda was the best interest of the child. 444 00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,490 The City of New York had another agenda, 445 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:40,240 they needed to suffocate and silence Paul Williams. 446 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:43,830 And when he wouldn't shut up they fired him. 447 00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:47,080 Under what pretext? 448 00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:52,170 That he was insubordinate. He wasn't following instructions. 449 00:31:53,410 --> 00:31:55,130 I have no comment to say, okay? 450 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760 Paul Williams may not want to answer our questions, 451 00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:01,510 but his attorney assures us he is not running away from an investigation 452 00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:04,800 into whether someone may have intervened in New York City's handling 453 00:32:04,830 --> 00:32:07,520 of the child abuse allegations against Woody Allen. 454 00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:09,560 I did my job and I believe the kid, okay? 455 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,520 - You believe the kid? - Yes. 456 00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:15,190 I have seen no evidence to led me to believe otherwise. 457 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,660 Confidential notes obtained from the Human Resources Administration 458 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,450 indicate that the investigator attributed the decision 459 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,500 not to pursue the case to the Mayor's office, a charge they deny. 460 00:32:25,980 --> 00:32:28,670 This wasn't about one supervisor 461 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,300 or one department in this agency. 462 00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:40,890 This was a massive cover-up attempt, and Paul was caught in the middle. 463 00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:43,810 Williams is suing the city, 464 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,060 charging that the Mayor's office hid and suppressed information in the case. 465 00:32:48,420 --> 00:32:52,690 Williams contends that higher-ups muzzled him, refusing to allow him 466 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,530 to report his findings either to New York family court 467 00:32:55,630 --> 00:32:57,570 or to authorities in Connecticut, 468 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280 where a parallel investigation is still going on. 469 00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:05,910 Every procedure, every rule, every regulation, 470 00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:08,160 every statute, every ordinance 471 00:33:08,190 --> 00:33:11,580 with respect to the investigation of a child sexual abuse in this matter 472 00:33:11,610 --> 00:33:12,750 was violated. 473 00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:15,420 Women's rights activist Gloria Steinem 474 00:33:15,530 --> 00:33:18,050 came to lend her support to Paul Williams. 475 00:33:18,450 --> 00:33:21,220 Someone who knew the case got in touch with me, 476 00:33:21,870 --> 00:33:24,140 just as a reporter, as a journalist. 477 00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:26,970 So I talked to Paul. 478 00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:31,520 He seemed to me a very admirable, smart, 479 00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:35,770 empathetic person with no possible motive 480 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:40,240 to do anything but do his best to find out the truth. 481 00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:46,580 The determination that the judge made was that he shouldn't have been fired, 482 00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:52,540 and he was awarded his job back, and back pay for what was taken from him. 483 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:00,380 Paul Williams felt vindicated in the individual sense 484 00:34:00,910 --> 00:34:03,840 of what happened in terms of getting his job back. 485 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,430 But he was never able to complete the very job he was given. 486 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,690 Paul Williams still works 487 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:14,520 for the New York City Administration for Children's Service, 488 00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:18,530 and a spokesperson for the agency declined our request for an interview. 489 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,660 But in looking through his old case file 490 00:34:22,890 --> 00:34:24,990 we were surprised to see a familiar name. 491 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,240 Williams had corresponded directly with Jennifer Sawyer, 492 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,870 one of the social workers who interviewed Dylan 493 00:34:32,060 --> 00:34:34,170 for the Yale New Haven investigation in Connecticut. 494 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,210 According to Williams' notes, 495 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,630 Sawyer had told him that she had not only considered Dylan credible, 496 00:34:42,370 --> 00:34:44,640 but believed that she had more to disclose. 497 00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:48,850 Sawyer's notes were later destroyed. 498 00:34:52,130 --> 00:34:53,890 In the end the result was 499 00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:59,900 that people with power were able to get the case removed. 500 00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:06,120 It just seemed to me, from everything I could glean as a reporter, 501 00:35:06,850 --> 00:35:09,330 to be a case of great injustice. 502 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,070 I don't sleep at night. What I do is lay awake thinking 503 00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:16,460 about how horrendous this has been, what they've done to her. 504 00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:23,590 The elite can do whatever they need to do, whatever they want to do, 505 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,260 and there's no consequences for it. 506 00:35:31,790 --> 00:35:35,940 Not long after that, I think maybe a year later, I left the city agency. 507 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:41,900 Why? 508 00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:44,570 Because I could not continue to do what I did 509 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,820 to those low-income families, those black families, 510 00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:53,000 and welfare families, and have them treated differently 511 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,870 than if they would've been a Woody Allen. 512 00:35:59,150 --> 00:36:02,880 He's got an army of lawyers, and he's very wealthy. 513 00:36:04,110 --> 00:36:06,930 People bend over backwards to do what he wants. 514 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,590 What I really thought was that Woody was all-powerful, 515 00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:15,850 and that what he had told me was true, 516 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,440 and that he could control the Yale people, the doctor there, 517 00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:23,600 and he could control somehow the New York people. 518 00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:25,400 Because he made his movies in New York, 519 00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:28,530 that brought millions of dollars to New York City. 520 00:36:29,850 --> 00:36:32,030 And what he had said to me was that, 521 00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:35,750 "It doesn't matter what's true. What matters is what's believed." 522 00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:43,380 And that he said it in such a cold way that I thought could he be right? 523 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680 And then Woody sued me for custody, 524 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,300 saying that I had to hand over my children 525 00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:55,270 because I was an unfit mother, 526 00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:58,270 turning my children against him with horrible lies, 527 00:37:00,380 --> 00:37:03,110 that he was going to take Dylan, Moses, and Satchel. 528 00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:07,860 But I also faced losing all of my children, 529 00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:11,240 because if Woody were believed that I was a horrible mother, 530 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,330 what would happen to all the other adopted children in the family? 531 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,960 I mean, there was a lot to lose. 532 00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:23,420 You brought charges against me as an unfit mother. 533 00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:25,590 And I'm going to make them stick. 534 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,760 Woody, don't do this. Don't try this. Don't do this. 535 00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:36,100 I don't deserve it. 536 00:37:45,970 --> 00:37:48,860 If you look back from an historical point of view 537 00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:51,450 there's clearly a bias against women 538 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,830 who made allegations of rape and sexual abuse against children. 539 00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:58,580 And the very term "hysteria" as applied to women 540 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:02,460 was easy to believe that women who made allegations 541 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,460 were themselves mentally ill. 542 00:38:06,570 --> 00:38:09,970 I personally read every law review article on this subject 543 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,800 from the 1880s to the 1970s. 544 00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:19,730 And the level of skepticism of women's allegations of rape and sexual assault 545 00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:21,980 was almost monolithic. 546 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:25,110 People don't want to believe that this could be happening 547 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:27,020 in the context of a family. 548 00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:31,320 It's so awful to think that a father could be doing this to his child 549 00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:34,990 that we would rather assume, we'll look for any explanation, 550 00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:36,620 other than that being the truth. 551 00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:42,870 Dr. Richard Gardner, known for his innovative work on children of divorce, 552 00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:45,540 coined the term "Parental Alienation Syndrome." 553 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,750 The idea is that one parent, caught up in a custody battle, 554 00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:51,970 programs children against the other parent, 555 00:38:52,410 --> 00:38:54,970 even fabricating charges of sexual abuse. 556 00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:58,430 It's not a rare phenomenon; it's quite common. 557 00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:03,140 He says it usually arises when a mother, afraid of losing custody, 558 00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:05,520 uses false accusations as a weapon. 559 00:39:06,170 --> 00:39:10,070 In about 90% of cases it's the mother who is the programmer, 560 00:39:10,340 --> 00:39:13,530 and the father who is the victim of the campaign. 561 00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:20,790 He said that when mothers report child sexual abuse in custody litigation, 562 00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:24,530 most of the time they are doing so not because it's true, 563 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,460 but because they want to alienate the children from their father. 564 00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:30,330 Children are very suggestable, and it's easier for them 565 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,470 to start off with suggested ideas which develop into delusions. 566 00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:38,350 I believe that we are witnessing the third-greatest wave of hysteria 567 00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:39,890 that we've ever seen in this country. 568 00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:42,310 The problem with his syndrome 569 00:39:42,370 --> 00:39:46,230 is that it became a device for not believing people, 570 00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:51,900 and an easy way to brand the woman as mentally unstable 571 00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:54,400 and a deliberate fabricator. 572 00:39:56,050 --> 00:40:00,120 So here comes a book that professes to give us charts, 573 00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:03,790 and diagrams, and numbers, and easy explanations 574 00:40:03,850 --> 00:40:06,040 for how to sort out whether this is true or false. 575 00:40:06,860 --> 00:40:11,540 It's all bogus, it's not real science, but it looks like science. 576 00:40:15,370 --> 00:40:18,050 There were a number of studies in the U.S. and around the world. 577 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,060 They found that reports of child sexual abuse are rarely intentionally false. 578 00:40:26,130 --> 00:40:28,310 Studies found that only 2 to 9 percent 579 00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:31,890 of child sexual abuse reports made to child welfare agencies 580 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,610 are considered to be intentionally false. 581 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,860 Gardner himself admits that his theories 582 00:40:40,890 --> 00:40:43,660 aren't based on any scientific or clinical research, 583 00:40:43,690 --> 00:40:45,120 just his experience. 584 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,830 His work on parental alienation isn't reviewed by peers; 585 00:40:48,860 --> 00:40:50,500 he publishes it all himself. 586 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,170 He was clearly very troubled. 587 00:40:54,740 --> 00:40:57,340 He said crazy things, and he put some of them in print. 588 00:40:57,910 --> 00:41:00,630 "... pedophilia has been considered the norm 589 00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:04,680 by the vast majority of individuals in the history of the world... " 590 00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:06,430 "It is because our society 591 00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:11,810 overreacts to it (pedophilia) that children suffer". 592 00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:14,400 He said that the earlier children become sexualized 593 00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:16,060 the better it is for the race, 594 00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:18,190 because they'll have more sex and more offspring. 595 00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:20,740 So this is all-natural and good for the species. 596 00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:23,320 After some of that became exposed 597 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:25,820 people started disparaging Richard Gardner 598 00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:28,460 and the Parental Alienation Syndrome, 599 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:31,240 but then they just started to keep on using it, 600 00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:32,960 even using his same criteria. 601 00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:40,130 So often fathers who are accused of abuse respond by suing for custody. 602 00:41:41,870 --> 00:41:44,550 Very often the abuser files for custody 603 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,850 to tamp down any kind of criminal investigation that's going on. 604 00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:54,060 The timing of when Woody Allen filed for custody matches this strategy. 605 00:41:56,090 --> 00:41:59,400 Within a week of learning that he was being investigated for child abuse, 606 00:42:00,510 --> 00:42:03,320 Woody Allen filed a lawsuit against Mia Farrow 607 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,120 for sole custody of Dylan, Satchel, and Moses. 608 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:12,790 The suit claimed Mia was emotionally disturbed, 609 00:42:13,570 --> 00:42:15,960 unable to manage the rearing of her nine children, 610 00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:18,710 and was brainwashing the children 611 00:42:18,860 --> 00:42:22,760 with respect to the false allegations of sexual misconduct by Allen. 612 00:42:30,330 --> 00:42:32,100 Why would you want to take them away? 613 00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:34,350 You promised me you would never do it. 614 00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:37,020 You know in your heart I'm not heavily medicated, 615 00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:41,610 that I'm not abusive, that I always spend enough time with them. 616 00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:46,740 If I have faults about that it's that I always spend all my time with them. 617 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:50,200 I don't think in the 13 years, of the 13 movies we've done... 618 00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:52,370 You'll have a chance to prove that. 619 00:42:53,730 --> 00:42:55,710 But you know that in your heart, 620 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960 that I've never showed up for work without the children, 621 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,800 that the children have always come first. 622 00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:07,010 You'll have a chance to make that case at some point. 623 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,060 And when all the facts are in we'll see. 624 00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:16,900 Okay. 625 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,070 - Is your phone taped? - No, my phone's not taped. 626 00:43:23,260 --> 00:43:27,870 I'm the last person that knows how to work that stuff. 627 00:43:30,850 --> 00:43:33,710 You don't even have to talk about it. We can hang up now if you want. 628 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:36,500 I was just hearing you out because I think, 629 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:43,210 that a terrible thing is being done to the kids... 630 00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:46,380 - Are you hanging up? - Hold on one second. 631 00:43:46,780 --> 00:43:48,300 - Hello? - Yeah, Woody? 632 00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:49,880 Yes, can I call you back? 633 00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:53,060 I'm on the phone with Mia and I have been for the last 10 minutes. 634 00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:55,560 I'm not saying anything, but I'm just listening and taping. 635 00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:57,150 God bless you. Bye. 636 00:43:58,250 --> 00:43:59,900 Hello! 637 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,530 - Hello. - Okay. 638 00:44:03,090 --> 00:44:07,570 Do what you have to do. I don't think it's in your best interest, 639 00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:09,690 or in the children's best interest. 640 00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,740 You mean your best interest, right? That's what this is about. 641 00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:15,620 Certainly not in my best interest either. 642 00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:20,080 It's not in mine or yours, or the children's. 643 00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:25,920 A judge has barred television cameras from the courtroom 644 00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:29,510 during tomorrow's custody hearing between Woody Allen and Mia Farrow. 645 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,720 Allen is suing for custody of the couple's three children. 646 00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:34,180 Try and get the kids. 647 00:44:34,370 --> 00:44:35,930 He said he should have custody 648 00:44:36,130 --> 00:44:38,190 of the three youngest children he shared with Farrow, 649 00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:41,520 because she was seeking vengeance on him through the children 650 00:44:41,710 --> 00:44:43,150 using them as pawns. 651 00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:46,150 We are confident that after the... 652 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,610 all the evidence is in we will prevail at the custody hearing. 653 00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:54,700 It was a circus in that courtroom. Everybody was jockeying for seats. 654 00:44:55,190 --> 00:45:00,420 I mean, every tabloid, every big TV personality was there. 655 00:45:01,030 --> 00:45:04,960 Everybody wanted to know how this was going to end for Woody Allen. 656 00:45:05,950 --> 00:45:10,300 Woody Allen to New York was a home-grown hero 657 00:45:10,580 --> 00:45:15,810 to a whole generation of artists, intellectuals, journalists. 658 00:45:16,170 --> 00:45:19,810 I grew up with Woody Allen as a hero. 659 00:45:21,250 --> 00:45:26,570 The New York Times was Woody Allen's hometown paper in so many ways. 660 00:45:26,930 --> 00:45:29,440 Vincent Canby, the film critic for the New York Times, 661 00:45:29,470 --> 00:45:31,980 had long been a champion of Woody's work. 662 00:45:32,010 --> 00:45:36,290 The readership of the New York Times and the viewership of Woody's films 663 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,580 were almost two parallel audiences. 664 00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:42,710 He was the ultimate New Yorker. 665 00:45:42,860 --> 00:45:46,170 Next to the Statue of Liberty who was the most famous New Yorker? 666 00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:50,680 Who expressed the city best? Who epitomized it to the ultimate degree? 667 00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:57,310 It was Woody Allen. And so the atmosphere was one of rapt attention. 668 00:46:01,590 --> 00:46:06,110 The Allen v. Farrow trial was presided over by Judge Elliott Wilk, 669 00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:07,900 who would determine custody 670 00:46:07,930 --> 00:46:11,570 and visitation rights for Dylan, Satchel, and Moses. 671 00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:15,700 Woody Allen was the first witness sworn in, 672 00:46:15,850 --> 00:46:19,410 and his attorney, Elkan Abramowitz, led the questioning. 673 00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:23,790 Were you ever alone with Dylan on August 4th...? 674 00:46:26,190 --> 00:46:28,710 No. I was not allowed to be alone with her. 675 00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:32,170 I was always in the presence of other people... 676 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,390 I was never alone for any substantial amount of time. 677 00:46:39,620 --> 00:46:42,600 These claims of Mr. Allen were contradicted in court 678 00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:46,190 by three people who were supervising the children on the day of his visit. 679 00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:49,570 Kristi Groteke, Dylan's babysitter, 680 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,650 testified that she searched the house looking for Dylan, 681 00:46:53,050 --> 00:46:55,950 but was unable to locate her for about 20 minutes. 682 00:46:58,890 --> 00:47:02,500 During that same period, Sophie Berge, Dylan's tutor, 683 00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:05,490 testified she was outside with the other children, 684 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,380 where neither Dylan nor Allen were to be found. 685 00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:14,260 Earlier Alison Stickland, another babysitter, 686 00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:18,300 testified that she had walked in on Dylan and Allen in the TV room. 687 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:23,810 ... Mr. Allen was on his knees in front of Dylan with his head in hep lap... 688 00:47:24,130 --> 00:47:28,360 - ... where was he facing? - Her, straight ahead. 689 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,770 - He was facing into her body? - Yes. 690 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,990 "His head in her crotch", that stuck with me. 691 00:47:36,930 --> 00:47:40,990 I remember reporters all, like, exchanging sidelong glances. 692 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,040 There seems no reasonable way 693 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,210 to look at that behavior as anything but trouble. 694 00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:58,220 The Woody who appeared at the trial was a frightened, 695 00:47:58,330 --> 00:48:02,390 defensive creature who was out of his element. 696 00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:05,520 There was no sense from him 697 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,600 that the motivation for wanting sole custody 698 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,730 was his deep love for these children, his concern for their welfare. 699 00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:16,360 I think you did get a sense of his anger with Mia Farrow. 700 00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:21,950 It was really about portraying Mia as vindictive 701 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,250 and seeking revenge for the relationship with Soon-Yi. 702 00:48:27,820 --> 00:48:30,840 They were attempting to make the case 703 00:48:30,940 --> 00:48:36,090 that Mia had concocted this story as a way to punish Woody. 704 00:48:40,290 --> 00:48:42,300 Do you believe that Miss Farrow 705 00:48:42,410 --> 00:48:45,810 brainwashed Dylan with respect to the accusations? 706 00:48:46,670 --> 00:48:51,230 I do believe that she brainwashed Dylan... 707 00:48:52,420 --> 00:48:55,280 Mia instantly took Dylan, 708 00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,450 asked her in a leading way about molestation... 709 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,080 Dylan, tell me again what happened, okay? 710 00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:13,840 The videotape of Dylan talking about abuse in the TV room, 711 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,300 and then in the attic, was entered as evidence in the custody trial. 712 00:49:19,070 --> 00:49:22,140 Mia testified that she taped Dylan over two days, 713 00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:24,430 whenever she had started to speak about it. 714 00:49:25,330 --> 00:49:28,810 As part of our research we asked a team of independent experts 715 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,640 to evaluate the tape. 716 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,740 He put his head on my lap, hugged me tight. 717 00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:41,320 And then... 718 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,280 And then he... 719 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,830 And then he secretly took one hand 720 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,710 from... 721 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,760 from here, and touched my privates. 722 00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:01,300 And I do not like that one bit. 723 00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:04,670 What a child forensic interviewer is going to be looking for 724 00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:07,260 is as the child is describing what happened 725 00:50:07,330 --> 00:50:11,100 does it seem like they are recounting something that happened to them, 726 00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:14,390 or is there a disconnect between the words that they're using 727 00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:17,650 and their body language, or their voice inflection and that sort of thing. 728 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,740 - Where did he touch you? - Here. 729 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,570 You can see the child almost physically re-enacting 730 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,700 as though they're recalling what happened to them 731 00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:29,200 by you can see her reaching towards her backside. 732 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:33,750 We went into your room 733 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,300 and we went into the attic. 734 00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:42,800 He started telling me weird things. 735 00:50:42,830 --> 00:50:45,260 And secretly he went into the attic, 736 00:50:45,410 --> 00:50:49,010 and went behind me and touched my privates. 737 00:50:49,870 --> 00:50:52,980 - Which privates did he touch? - This part. 738 00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:55,600 - He touched your front part? - Yeah! 739 00:50:57,260 --> 00:51:00,280 Mia Farrow was actually pretty careful in her questions. 740 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,610 All she did was say who, what, when, where, and how. 741 00:51:05,260 --> 00:51:09,790 There were no overt suggestions like, "He molested you, didn't he?" 742 00:51:09,890 --> 00:51:12,580 So there's none of that kind of coaching going on, 743 00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:15,040 where there are implicit suggestions 744 00:51:15,110 --> 00:51:19,920 such as one that I saw was Mia Farrow 745 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,170 clearly believed that he must've taken the child's pants off. 746 00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:26,090 So she asked, "Did he take your pants off?" 747 00:51:26,540 --> 00:51:29,680 - Did he take your underpants off? - No! 748 00:51:30,580 --> 00:51:33,980 Dylan says no. She keeps coming back. 749 00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:36,350 You just already had them off? 750 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:42,570 - But he didn't take them off? - No. 751 00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:46,110 From my point of view what's important is Dylan's response. 752 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,870 Does she go along with the suggestion? 753 00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:52,910 "Yes, he took my pants off." But she doesn't. 754 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,040 It's not just what the interviewer says; 755 00:51:57,070 --> 00:52:01,090 it's whether the child is suggestible or not that matters. 756 00:52:01,570 --> 00:52:04,590 And Dylan says no to things like that. 757 00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:07,300 She's very consistent in her story in this. 758 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,310 When I was in the attic he said, 759 00:52:13,210 --> 00:52:15,560 "Do not move. I have to do this." 760 00:52:17,090 --> 00:52:19,810 But I wiggled my bottom a little to see what he was doing. 761 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,650 He said: "Don't move, I have to do this." 762 00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:25,860 "So if you stay still..." 763 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,990 "then we can go to Paris." 764 00:52:32,810 --> 00:52:35,370 When a child is disclosing a conversation 765 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,960 or something that another person says, 766 00:52:38,070 --> 00:52:41,710 that again increases the credibility of the statement, 767 00:52:42,110 --> 00:52:44,050 because she's restating something that she heard. 768 00:52:44,860 --> 00:52:49,720 So that's something that would be hard to be coached on or fabricate about. 769 00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:54,180 - Did he say why you shouldn't tell? - He said... 770 00:52:54,920 --> 00:53:00,900 "Because this way you can be in my movie, if I do this." 771 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,780 - I didn't want him to do it, Mama. - I know, of course not! 772 00:53:12,310 --> 00:53:14,910 The child is starting to kind of shut down. 773 00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:16,790 It wouldn't surprise me at all watching this clip 774 00:53:16,850 --> 00:53:20,370 if the child already is getting tired of being asked these questions. 775 00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:25,710 That is a very typical progression for an abused child, 776 00:53:27,070 --> 00:53:30,550 not so much for a false accusation. 777 00:53:31,330 --> 00:53:34,760 False accusations tend to get stronger under pressure. 778 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,180 I didn't like it. 779 00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:44,310 I just feel so bad for you. 780 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,950 I don't like it. I also don't want to talk about it. 781 00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:53,120 Okay. Let's turn this off. 782 00:54:02,980 --> 00:54:04,290 What's in that tape 783 00:54:04,690 --> 00:54:10,550 feels like that is who I am when you strip away everything else. 784 00:54:13,370 --> 00:54:16,390 When you look underneath all my layers, 785 00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:20,390 down to the very center of who I am, 786 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,900 I am that little girl on the tape. 787 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,190 So... 788 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,820 it's a very vulnerable part of me, 789 00:54:38,060 --> 00:54:39,540 and a very... 790 00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:44,370 very hurt part of me. 791 00:54:46,070 --> 00:54:47,340 There's a lot of... 792 00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:51,840 That little girl is in a lot of pain. 793 00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,560 This kind of abuse warps something inside of you. 794 00:55:03,460 --> 00:55:08,640 Because it doesn't happen by a stranger 795 00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:11,070 that snatches you off the street and throws you in a van. 796 00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:18,410 It happens by someone you love and someone you trust, 797 00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:23,000 someone who buckles your seatbelt, 798 00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:26,920 takes your hand when you walk down the street, 799 00:55:29,570 --> 00:55:31,460 reads you bedtime stories... 800 00:55:35,370 --> 00:55:40,850 It's incomprehensible to normal people because it's not normal. 801 00:55:54,970 --> 00:55:56,740 It was the 20th day of a trial 802 00:55:56,810 --> 00:55:59,900 that has played out over nearly 7 weeks in a New York courtroom, 803 00:55:59,930 --> 00:56:03,200 a day for closing arguments by lawyers for Woody Allen, 804 00:56:03,230 --> 00:56:05,080 who was seeking custody of three children 805 00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:07,620 from this 12 years unmarried partnership with Mia Farrow. 806 00:56:07,770 --> 00:56:10,620 Farrow wiped tears from her eyes as Abramowitz accused her 807 00:56:10,650 --> 00:56:13,760 of seeking revenge for Allen's affair with Soon-Yi. 808 00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:15,130 The attorney argued, 809 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,510 "A mother who cannot subjugate her anger at a father is unfit to be a parent." 810 00:56:21,450 --> 00:56:22,810 I was so scared. 811 00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:26,980 I didn't know what would happen next. 812 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:32,320 And so we waited for the decision. 813 00:56:35,340 --> 00:56:38,700 We waited a week. We waited two weeks. 814 00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:40,990 We waited a month. 815 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,330 And then finally the judge brought his opinion down. 816 00:56:46,310 --> 00:56:52,090 Woody Allen's bitter child custody battle with Mia Farrow is over. 817 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,870 And a New York judge today 818 00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:57,130 cast Allen in a role he's often played on screen: loser. 819 00:56:57,450 --> 00:57:00,840 The judge said Allen did not demonstrate parenting skills 820 00:57:00,910 --> 00:57:04,640 that would qualify him to care for Moses, Dylan or Satchel. 821 00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:10,190 On June 7th, 1993 Judge Wilk issued his decision, 822 00:57:11,250 --> 00:57:14,570 and it was scathing. 823 00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:20,610 He stated, "Mr. Allen's behavior toward Dylan was grossly inappropriate 824 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,490 and that measures must be taken to protect her. 825 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,740 It is unclear whether Mr. Allen will ever develop the insight and judgment 826 00:57:29,770 --> 00:57:32,880 necessary for him to relate to Dylan appropriately. 827 00:57:34,690 --> 00:57:37,170 The evidence at trial established that Ms. Farrow 828 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,260 is a caring and loving mother. 829 00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:43,470 I am not persuaded that the videotape of Dylan 830 00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:46,470 is the product of leading questions or of the child's fantasy. 831 00:57:47,620 --> 00:57:50,890 There is no credible evidence to support Mr. Allen's contention 832 00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:53,400 that Ms. Farrow coached Dylan." 833 00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:57,360 He ruled Allen could not visit Dylan for at least six months, 834 00:57:57,430 --> 00:58:00,280 and questioned whether he could ever be a fit parent to the girl. 835 00:58:00,930 --> 00:58:03,870 Allen will be able to have supervised visits with Satchel, 836 00:58:04,020 --> 00:58:05,620 the couple's biological child, 837 00:58:05,770 --> 00:58:08,200 but 15-year-old Moses was left to decide 838 00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:10,330 whether he wants to see his adopted father. 839 00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:13,620 Judge Wilk also addressed 840 00:58:13,650 --> 00:58:17,300 the findings of the Yale New Haven report in his decision, stating, 841 00:58:18,610 --> 00:58:20,510 "The unavailability of the notes, 842 00:58:20,570 --> 00:58:24,180 together with their unwillingness to testify at this trial 843 00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:29,520 resulted in a report which was sanitized and therefore less credible." 844 00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:33,100 He could've very easily said, 845 00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:35,770 "I follow the guidelines of the Yale study team. 846 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,280 They're a very prestigious organization," but he didn't. 847 00:58:40,090 --> 00:58:42,200 He said he didn't buy it. 848 00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:46,870 I didn't buy it either. 849 00:58:47,980 --> 00:58:52,460 As a reporter, it's hard to admit this in a way. 850 00:58:52,810 --> 00:58:58,170 I absolutely worshiped Woody Allen before this trial. 851 00:58:58,740 --> 00:59:01,460 And I still... 852 00:59:02,660 --> 00:59:05,550 The proof is I could never watch a Woody Allen film again after this. 853 00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:15,440 It still hurts... it still wrenches me to say that. 854 00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:17,440 It's still not easy to say that. 855 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,030 My hope now is that I can go home, back to my children, 856 00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:32,120 and that we will finally have some measure of peace 857 00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:35,920 and be allowed to heal, to begin that. 858 00:59:36,690 --> 00:59:40,500 It was a very strange feeling for me 859 00:59:41,740 --> 00:59:44,130 being told that 860 00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:50,180 I never had to see him again. 861 00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:54,640 And it wasn't framed as, "You're never going to see your father again." 862 00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:57,400 It was framed as, 863 00:59:58,670 --> 01:00:02,150 "Do you ever want to see him again?" And... 864 01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:05,530 I didn't. 865 01:00:06,550 --> 01:00:10,030 I feel it's unfortunate, even tragic for the kids 866 01:00:10,060 --> 01:00:12,580 that I didn't get custody of them. 867 01:00:12,810 --> 01:00:15,580 And if I could have just a second to thank 868 01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:19,120 all the people in the streets, and at the Knick games, 869 01:00:19,150 --> 01:00:21,960 and who have come over to me and given me their support 870 01:00:22,070 --> 01:00:24,790 and said terrific things to me, and, you know, 871 01:00:24,820 --> 01:00:28,630 I'm still in there fighting and doing my best, and thank you. 872 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,850 Allen appealed Judge Wilk's decision to two higher courts. 873 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,390 The appellate court upheld Wilk's decision. 874 01:00:38,420 --> 01:00:41,640 New York's highest court, The Court of Appeals, 875 01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:43,690 declined to hear the case. 876 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,610 Allen was ordered 877 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,110 to pay more than one million dollars in Mia Farrow's legal fees. 878 01:00:50,810 --> 01:00:53,400 Although the custody case had been settled, 879 01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:56,450 the criminal investigation in Connecticut was still continuing. 880 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,000 Are you concerned? 881 01:01:00,190 --> 01:01:03,540 I don't know. I have no idea what Connecticut is going to do. 882 01:01:03,570 --> 01:01:05,420 I don't even know all the information they have. 883 01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:09,550 They have been very diligent. I think they are also acting 884 01:01:09,740 --> 01:01:12,090 as best they can to protect the children in this family. 885 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,890 My instructions to the Connecticut State Police was: 886 01:01:16,250 --> 01:01:20,560 "Gather your evidence and submit to me an arrest warrant application." 887 01:01:21,460 --> 01:01:24,940 The decision as to whether or not there was going to be a prosecution 888 01:01:25,010 --> 01:01:26,280 was my decision. 889 01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:32,280 Maco's team had compiled 1700 pages of evidentiary material, 890 01:01:32,810 --> 01:01:34,950 including witness statements, 891 01:01:34,980 --> 01:01:38,040 logs of the physical evidence collected by police, 892 01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,460 forensic reports, maps of the crime scene, 893 01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:44,670 and reports of interviews with all of the people involved. 894 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,090 Among the state's evidence 895 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,840 were records of a police interview with Woody Allen, 896 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,010 where he was inconsistent 897 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,680 about whether he had ever been in the attic crawlspace area, 898 01:01:57,330 --> 01:02:01,850 and interviews with Dylan by three clinically-trained child-abuse experts 899 01:02:02,170 --> 01:02:04,430 from different government agencies, 900 01:02:04,460 --> 01:02:07,730 all of whom found Dylan to be consistent, honest, 901 01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:11,030 and believed she was telling the truth. 902 01:02:13,310 --> 01:02:15,280 The conclusion of these investigators 903 01:02:15,390 --> 01:02:19,200 was there was probable cause to issue an arrest warrant for Woody Allen 904 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,170 on the charges of first-and fourth degree sexual assault of a minor. 905 01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:29,460 I was confident there was probable cause, 906 01:02:29,570 --> 01:02:33,630 meaning reasonable grounds to believe a crime was committed. 907 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,850 But I have to prove my case beyond a reasonable doubt, 908 01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:41,140 and I can't prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt without a child. 909 01:02:42,170 --> 01:02:48,150 In other words, could this child be my first witness on the stand 910 01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:50,190 to say what had occurred? 911 01:02:52,430 --> 01:02:55,990 This case hinged on the testimony of a seven-year-old girl. 912 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,540 Woody Allen denies 913 01:03:01,730 --> 01:03:05,670 ever having been sexually inappropriate or abusive with Dylan 914 01:03:05,730 --> 01:03:08,340 and was never criminally charged. 915 01:03:08,860 --> 01:03:12,670 Dr. John Leventhal declined to be interviewed for this project. 916 01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:16,840 Jennifer Sawyer did not response to request to be interviewed.